@ river rat 70, Great idea there. I've posted three videos on dead elm tree identification: How to Identify Dead Elms, Go for the Gold - 14 Lbs., and Good Job, God - 9 Lbs. All under the handle "creatorwise" Be sure and check them out. There are lots of great videos there. I like this Neralich guy from Missouri's videos. He slaughtered them last year.