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Morel Cultivation (holy grail) and Other mushroom Cultivation

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It seems almost every wild mushroom hunter/lover eventually tries his/her hand at some form of mushroom cultivation.

This Ohio Forum Topic on Cultivation is intended for those interested in starting or sharing their experiences with cultivation.

I am committing to making at least 1 post per month for the next year to keep this new Topic (Cultivation) toward the top of the Ohio Forum Topic list (which is now at 12 pages of Topics as of 8-2013).

I find the field of Morel information/shared experience available now is greater and of more applicability than what I found even 3-4 years ago. Lots of people are "gnawing at the Enigma of Morel Cultivation" and making contributions. From this process of shared collective experience I believe we'll have some refinement of understanding and successful formulas for getting results with Morels.

Some call this Crowd-Sourcing. I've participated in scientific versions that redefined the number of stars in the known Universe and one that created new tools for finding supernovas with half billion dollar telescopes -- and I'm not a scientist!!

The point is everyone's experience is valid and makes a contribution. So, it's not about right or wrong but about what we learn and how it moves us forward toward greater practical understanding.
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So I've been tinkering with growing morels based on the info SB has sent me. Fingers crossed: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1313914982026653&id=432389456845881
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When I have some morels, I wash them in plain cool water. Then, I pour the spore bearing wash water into 2 liter pop bottles 3/4 full. Squeeze each bottle so most of the air is expelled, then cap it and freeze the bottle. This helps keep it from splitting under ice pressure. After a few weeks, let the bottles thaw out. The next day pour the water where you want the morels to grow. Next year keep your eye on that spot where you poured the water. This has worked for me three times (different years). I live in southern Indiana and wanted to share this when the season gets started. Mike I saw this posted on the Kansas board. Has anyone heard of this?
This magnificent mushroom sight put a smile on my face this morning when I walked to the back corner of the yard.

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This is the first fruiting of the logs that I inoculated for Shiitake mushrooms last December (2016).

In the past I always just let nature take its' course and if it rained enough, they would start fruiting. I would cover with burlap to keep in the moisture and add water from a garden watering can. Those first logs sprouted Shiitake's for 5-6 years.

This year when I saw the first mushroom start on a new log, I took the remaining 4 logs and immersed them completely in water for 24 hours.

Within three days the mushrooms were budding and this pic is of 3 of the 4 logs about 5 days later. The log that wasn't immersed in water to "shock the mycellium into fruiting" has sprouted only 3 mushrooms so far.

You can pretty much guess what I'm going to do going forward.

Hmnn . . . the trade-off, however, will be that I'll lose one of my indicator events.

In the past if I was busy and not getting out into the woods much, as soon as I'd see Shiitake on any of my back-yard logs, I knew that I better get out into the woods for wild mushrooms.

I kinda' liked giving "Mother Nature" the opportunity to remind me that way.
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Have always done the soak and bang them around. You'll only get 3 good years out of them with this method from what I've found. It is a lot of work soaking and banging around a couple hundred logs and never really get them all done so, always have some of those indicator logs laying around to tell me when to hunt. Happy Growing!!
If anyone's interested check out pashroomin.com under the growing mushroom threads. A lot of good info on mushroom cultivation including morels. The shroomery is another good site for cultivation. Happy Growing!!
trahn008 - thanks for the comments. The shortened productive life is what I expected.

Thanks for sharing info leads/links. I tried to bring up pashroomin.com and could not find anything. Am I misunderstanding something.
As an update, I'm re- posting this reply to a PA Forum/thread below:

pj estrada -
Morels are cultivated very successfully and profitably in China, outdoors, where they utilize the natural cycles - ie have a winter with freezing temps. Are there any mountainous areas in the Philippines with freezing winter temps for a month?

Otherwise you'll need to look at a more 24/365 higher tech bio-tech approach; indoor cultivation with refrigerators and freezers.

This is now being refined , again in China, and Chinese patents are starting to emerge on aspects of their process as they bring their outdoor understanding (born of 26 years of effort) into an indoor 24 hrs/day 365 days/year controlled environment where the cycle times come down from an outdoor Sept/Oct through April/may in China (about 5 months) to about 1.5 to 2 months or so. Quite a difference between one crop/year and 6-8 crops/year and in the capital requirements.

Do you speak Chinese?

I've paid to have a few Chinese patents translated, but if the translator is not a scientist/biologist with some understanding of mushrooms, some of the necessary finer nuances are lost and they are the differences between no or mediocre success and assured success, which the Chinese scientists consider 96 to 98% success.

And, personally, I've yet to experience what I would even call mediocre success. Ha! . . . but still trying - riding the learning curve with the investment of time here and there.
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Mother Nature is teasing me!

This morning I found a first Shiitake That "Popped & Stopped" in the back corner of the yard on cultivated logs.

Only one . . . about the size of the end of my thumb.

Now, if there were a dozen or more . . . I'd be out in the woods looking for early Morels right now.

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Yesterday I secured a spore print from the last Black Morels I found.

I'm hoping there might be some "Home Team" advantage in using it as the Blacks came from the creek behind my house and just 1/3 mile away.

Perhaps this year I'll actually accomplish my intended effort using the stratified trench technique with a high nutrient-no nutrient layering that others have been successful with.

Proper timing of follow through has frequently been my downfall with other attempts.
False morel Fawn Mushroom


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Hello!

I am trying to make black morel grain spawn. I started the spawn on cardboard, and transferred a piece onto oat in a jar. I sterilized the oat, but not the cardboard. Can you tell me if the white thing visible on the photo is morel mycelium or just cobweb? It grew in 2 days from the cardboard pieces placed on the top of the grain.

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Bencuri - My opinion is that you have Morel mycelium. It appears that there is also a black spot, top center inside the jar, that looks like contamination starting to grow. May not necessarily be a deal killer. Look at how quickly the Morel mycelium grew before the contamination started.

How are you planning on using the grain spawn?

Did you use Morel mushroom pieces or inside-of-cap tissue to grow unto the cardboard? Did you use the technique of delaminated cardboard rolled up in a roll?

Share with others what your results are as this unfolds for you.

For me failures are productive if seen as a step in the process of learning
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I put some pieces of the cap of a 2 week dried black morel between cardboard sheets layered onto each other. I soaked the cardboard in water before that and squeezed the excess out. After a while some white web started to form around thepieces, and I transferred it into a jar filled with oat. I put it onto the top of the oat. The oat was boiled before and also sterilized in the jar for an hour. In 2 days, this white web formed. By now the web is more dense, you cannot see into the jar and it is milkwhite. But I am missing the orange sclerotia that the black morel mycelium usually grows. That is why I am unsure about what is in the jar.

The black spot you see is just a hole that the web left untouched.
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Sclerotia formation takes some time the myc is in running mode not storage mode yet. Morel myc is one of the fastest runner. Black morel will form micro sclerotia and a lot of them where as yellows form only one or two, which depends on the weight mass of your grain (medium). Happy Growing!
Notice how the myc is more webby when you use a medium that has space between the grain. When you use a dense medium the myc is more thread like.
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Then I will store it further and see what happens. How can I know the times has come to put this into the soil?
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I like to get my stuff in the ground when it's in it's running stage, timing is important.
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Running is like the point it is at now. The myc is running not storing nutrients (no sclerotium). The stage you use your spawn to make a morel patch is important. Happy Growing!
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My other jar looks different. May I ask you to take a look at it as well? In this one there is much more orange color, some of the web is also orange. But this one has green and some pink colored contamination as well (the pink one is not easy to spot on the photo). Do you think I should put this into the trash, or the mycelium can still live happily besides these?

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