MUSHROOM GROWING 2020

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  1. trahn008

    trahn008 Morel Connoisseur

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    My first grow of the year will be a oyster kit that the boy's got somewhere along the way last year!LOL.. I will follow the directions as written, and we'll see how it works out! LOL.... Happy Growing!
     
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    100 percent guaranteed to grow! Right from the box! 205A19F9-4732-4821-BD01-53B1EF8E6403.jpeg 04DBA236-9B43-46E2-96E4-30D3845DA73D.jpeg
     
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    Having some trouble right from the start. Looks like the magic happen before the box was opened! Lol 6AC1A018-502D-41E2-931E-1B9C8A0298A9.jpeg
     
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    Step-1 Soak bag overnight in water. 1FF4D1C0-5897-436D-9F12-8A51E3D9BFBA.jpeg
     
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    OK so I followed the direction on the box and knew it was going to fail! You have to cut the bag open so that fresh air will start the pinning procedure. I thought this might have been a magic bag that I've never seen before. I also didn't get the spray bottle with the kit, but I think I could come up with something. Happy Growing!
     
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    What I did, was take the substrate block out of the bag and dropped back into box, also cut a slot in box for fresh air. The cardboard should help with nutrients, and should see MYC jumping over in a day or so. Happy Growing! EDCB8DEC-8B4E-4F92-967D-E033D17108AE.jpeg
     
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  7. wade

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    @trahn008 .. Howdy
    Wade here... growing something is very interesting.. i want to see how that and others turns out for ya...
    Come Join us on our New !2020 Thread when you can..
     
  8. theknowlesy

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    Do you guys use fertilizers?
     
  9. wade

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    @theknowlesy @trahn008 trahn008 is the Man on that growing..
    direct your corispondance directly to him.
    i no Nothing about growing any Fungi..
    sorry to have interrupt..the conversation.
    I'll opt out now..
    Happy Season good luck
     
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    I don't use fertilizers with my mushroom grows. Happy Growing!
     
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    Update on the big pink oyster grow! We have some pinning happen! 0DED1ADE-1512-4CA6-84CB-85E604BE77B7.jpeg
     
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    Follow Up on Morel mycelium

    I said I got morel mycelium growing numerous times but my follow up was poor and so it always ended up in the flower beds, usually past its' prime.

    I had a Morel pop again in my back yard last spring in the same spot where 7 Morels grew 4 years prior.
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    I collected a spore print in a jelly jar. Later (Aug-thinking I'd innoculate a trench in Oct) I used it with a damp Q-tip, wiped it through the spores, then dabbed into cooked grass seed (no pressure cooker sterilization) numerous times.

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    It took and I either added more cooked grass seed on top after grow-out or took some out with a spoon and inoculated new mason jars of cooked grass seed. This has carried forward to the below pic yesterday.

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    Benign neglect in my dark 65 degree basement has done well. This is probably a 3-4 generation of grow-out now and still very vibrant. These are the best jars of morel mycelium I've experienced.

    So . . . it looks like I need to get some into new grow jars and decide what to do with these before they start to lose their vibrancy.

    Thinking of trying to cover some jars with a few inches of nutrient poor medium, let the mycelium grow into it for several weeks, hopefully getting some sclerotia there, wetting it, freezing it for a week and then thawing and seeing if they want to surprise "daddy" pretending it's springtime in Jan/Feb. Ha!

    Trahn, how did you get that fully developed Morel from you mycelium. Did you sing to it?
    Best to you this year and thanks for keeping this grow thread going.
     
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  13. trahn008

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    SB, I'm not a very good singer.. From my experience you don't have enough substrate for sclerotium formation (you would already have some forming on the edge of the glass, in that time frame). Yellows take a ton of nutrients. If it where me I would get all them jars filled to the top with grass seed. Once myc run is done I would get one of those throw away baking pans and pack spawn on bottom with at least 3 inches of moist verm. on top. Happy Growing!
     
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    SB, Excellent job by the way, getting a great looking spawn culture, using that method! Happy Growing!
     
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    Trahn - Thanks for the reply. I think I'll try that. It sounds like an excellent plan.

    What I did with the cook of the grass seed was to add a heaping tablespoon of brown sugar with the 4 dry cups of grass seed and 8-10 drops of a liquid trace mineral concentrate. It seemed that the mycelium flashed forth quickly (perhaps from eating the sugar, ha!) and then settled into a slower grow-out while working on the grass seed.
     
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    Trahn - In your experience and opinion are Blacks easier to work with?
     
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    Good question SB. From my experience the blacks are easier to get sclerotium formation than the yellows, but yellows are easier (NOT REALLY EASY) to fruit from sclerotia. One 8lb bag of grass seed substrate would yield 1 sometimes 2 yellow sclerotia. The blacks with those numbers would yield a dozen sometimes more. Happy Growing!
     
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    Tan Back-Yard 2019 Morel: Mycelium Grow-Out Continued.

    Last night, cooked more grass seed, gently for 30 minutes, spread it on a cookie sheet for a few minutes to cool down and stop steaming.

    Then I topped off 3 of the 4 jars from above.
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    The 4th jar, I decided to leave as is and monitor. I took a picture of the inside with side lighting from a flashlight and heightened the contrast of the image below.
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    There are at least 4 sclerota and 7-8 of the pre-sclerota gauzy mycelium balls on the top.

    I forgot to list in my previous post that in the cook of the grass seed earlier, I also added some Bragg's Liquid Amino Acids. So, to the cook I used brown sugar, liquid trace mineral concentrate and liquid amino acids (soy protein predigested into its' component amino acids).

    Interestingly, Trad Cotter in his book "Organic Mushroom Farming"said the the older gentleman who had on his own, perfected an outdoor trench Morel growing method said he added a "protein source" which he wouldn't divulge.

    Last night, I went back into the Chinese patents of recent and found that the latest work is often in composing excellent nutritional base for the growth of the mycelium. . . . and Peptones were listed. Peptones are: "water-soluble compounds that form by hydrolysis in the digestion of proteins to amino acids". Well -- that would be Bragg's liquid aminos. Perhaps this is even more effective than adding soy meal which many use.

    Below is the unaltered pic.
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    SB, after your done watching that 4th jar add 3 inches of packed moist verm. then another layer of simmered grass seed until jar is full. Let sit for 14 days then take lid off and let it off. Happy Growing!
     
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    Update on pink oyster grow. Looks like mold is starting to win the battle! Happy Growing! 73CF54A6-32ED-444F-B1DA-1F581B4DCAC8.jpeg
     
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