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Discussion in 'Iowa' started by shroom god, May 2, 2016.
So I guess you have a trespassing problem in iowa lol corn farmers!
Yeah keep thinking that. I know of that exact thing happening to a trespassing deer hunter from another website. He was charged and the landowner took the information to his employer. Bye, bye, don't let the door hit you in the a$$ on the way out.
Landowners got trail cameras hidden everywhere. You guys think your so sneaky and can get in and out without been seen. What comes around goes around.
Does this quote from him sound like he's just an innocent one time trespasser?
"Today I trespassed <strong>(again). This is certainly not the first time I’ve done so this season</strong>. For those of you <strong>who also do so frequently or on occasion,</strong> and who get caught, I offer the following story as possible “protocol” for turning a potentially bad situation in your favor."
There is no excuse for not asking for permission. You ask every year period. Land can change hands, owners can change their minds. Its simply the right thing to do.
Shroomtrooper. No I am not stupid. Evidently your comprehension skills could use a little work. Just because the trespassing incident ended on a positive note does not make it ok. Here is OBVIOUSLY where your comprehension is lacking.
1. He had permission from the prior owner (father) who is deceased. Not the son, nor did he seek permission. He admittedly trespassed knowing he did not have permission.
2. He feigned ignorance saying he though he was grandfathered in (lie).
So for you and hunter gatherer who it seems to be, have no issue regarding trespassing then you are part of the problem. Who cares if the outcome is positive or not. The point is that it shows true character. I bet had shroom god ASKED for permission he would have gotten it. This is part of the reason most land owners wont give permission is because of this lack of character and trespassing. If you need to trespass to find shrooms then maybe you're not such a good shroomer. If it does not belong to you, what makes one feel that they have the right to it? You guys must be that new breed of socialist that thinks everything belongs to everyone and it's yours to take.
For the majority of us that are honest and respect others property/belongings kudos to you and remember that thankfully these dirtballs are the minority.
wow, any morels left to pick in Iowa?
what if the morels i pick on your land, came from the spores of morels that fruited on public land, or better yet my land? Don't i get some of those? I can tell the difference, mine are bigger. I think the election has everyone a little bit on edge these days or something.
No your not stupid, and Shroomgod is not a A hole. I guess the story could have been told a little differently. But he did not know the previous landowner died, when he did he offered his bounty and invited them to a fish fry. He admittedly trespassed after he was informed of his death. Sounds like his son understood and did not want to take the mushrooms but after the persistent of SG he did. My comprehension skills are what I just said. I am sorry I said the word stupid, I am sure SG would have got permission, hey I dont believe in trespassing, Its easy to play by the rules. You should read his story one more time.
Wow. Where's sg? You started this mess you write 1000s of words every year and have an us vs them thing going now. You've stayed low just admit you're wrong. No posts for a week not your style. you say you respect Mother Nature? I celebrate the passion and art and science of morels and suddenly I am choosing between bs air borne spore rights, woody Guthrie communism- my land is not mine and rightfully pissed off land owners. I meekly enjoy my passion on public land. Sg has cool observations and a following. You are reading this thread. MAN UP. To all land owners. I speak for most pickers, sorry for the moral minority. I don't blame you these few are the same folks throwing beer cans and cigarette butts, traveling around to sell for a profit, but claiming it's all about loving Mother Earth.
Love yourself, respect your neighbor and forgive while begging for forgiveness.
I think maybe you need to re-read his first 2 posts or somehow better comprehend what he is saying. The whole post isn't about what to do if you accidentally get caught trespassing. Its a method of what to do also when you get caught intentionally trespassing. From his 1st post in bold.
<strong>Today I trespassed (again). This is certainly not the first time I’ve done so this season. For those of you who also do so frequently or on occasion, and who get caught, I offer the following story as possible “protocol” for turning a potentially bad situation in your favor.</strong>
<strong>to a tract of timber owned by a friend (and heirs) who passed away about 10 years ago. We’d gone back in there when he was living, but I hadn’t been there since 2005</strong>.
Very clear he knew he passed away and played dumb to it.
<strong>Certainly this was among the easiest trespass encounters I’ve had. It would be fascinating to hear from others and how you have managed to deal with it</strong>.
<strong>perhaps that mythical mother lode–that propels us forward to those forbidden places POSTED No Trespassing. You know those places better than you should.</strong>
From his 2nd post.
<strong>The old guy who owns it relies on neighbors to watch it. You’ve had enough of that game….and sneak in.</strong>
<strong>You park your vehicle a good distance away so as not to be too conspicuous. It looks like an abandoned Jeep sitting randomly aside a dirt road. You sneak back, fill a half a bag, then scurry back to the edge. On your way out you encounter the sheddings of a HUGE buck…massive…albeit gnawed and chewed by squirrels. You take them </strong>
<strong>The truck moves…you haul ass! Running like an Olympic sprinter you reach the Jeep, throw your shit in the back, start-up and haul some ass down the road. You pass the silver pickup slowly idling up the lane as you race east. You floor it.
Rule 1 of close call and escape in unfriendly territory: HAUL ASS as fast as you can.
There’s no rule 2, unless you get caught</strong>.
I don't care how helpful shroom god is on here. What his attitude towards private land owners is disturbing and is doing everyone who does it right a slap in the face.
BTW I'm still seeing good finds in Dubuque County. Buddy texted me pictures of a really good find from last night.
Shroomtrooper, thanks for acknowledging that I am not stupid lol. Shroom God may technically not be an A-Hole in an attitude sense, but he does promote trespassing in an arrogant way. So that makes him an A-Hole in my book. I own no land other than the land my house is on in DSM. I own no timber and while living in Iowa did quite well every year utilizing public land. Sure, I had days where I got skunked because the pressure is so severe, but every year I would venture to new spots to always have a backup location. Success meant me finding new spots, expanding territory, and being out there pre-dawn so I knew I was the first to be there. I was tenacious and would take vacation just to go after the roons. Everything I have gotten in life has been earned through hard work and tenacity. So when people take the easy way out or cheat I.E. trespass it bothers me. More so when they brag about it. It is no different than thievery. A simple ask for permission and offer up a portion of the bounty is the right way (ethical) to do things.
And for those that whine because some people have inherited land, suck it up buttercup. It's the way things go. I would love to have inherited land. It didn't happen, but I don't envy or have bitterness towards others because of it. It only makes me work harder and appreciate more when I do succeed on public land. Life is not fair, easy, or kind for most of us. The sooner we adapt and learn how to deal with it, the sooner we can focus on what matters.
fun gus, I was kidding. Not a lawyer, but who's spores are they? Thanks for the tip stormtrooper. Give up on this one bro. to radical. go pick morels. I may give your way a try this weekend if all works out as planned.
Bad season put everyone in a bad mood? Don't think I've ever seen this kind of response on here. I see the point of the landowner, but didn't expect that much back lash. Oh well, hope everyone fairs well, I think my area is done for the season.
Ignorance of the law is no excuse. I guess I should re-read the post. I am sorry. Dam I have to quit responding to post right when I wake up in the morning. SG has a way with words, I wonder if he is amused at the response he caused, I kind of like it actually, sure every shroom hunter has tested the boundary's, I dont know what to say, love Shroomgod, wish I could put words down like him. But loyalty's are strong, but that can change also. Still love shroomgod, Hey Shroomgod, need a response, this should be good.
SG has always been positive, helpful, encouragement, its a story, nothing more I believe.
KB, I will give up on this one, no contest.
Resurrecting this thread due to a very recent experience (yesterday) finding someone's bootprints in my creek.
Don't let me catch you on MY land, that's all I have to say.
I've had it up to my eyeballs with people ignoring my signs, taking them down, littering cans, bottles, butts and other trash....and worst of all STEALING (yes, I consider it theft) mushrooms from the land I HAVE OWNED FOR 20 YEARS AND PAY TAXES ON. I have signs every hundred feet around the perimeter, it's nearly impossible to miss them, and I still have people claiming they didn't know they were on private property. This, in the day of GPS phones and clearly marked plats/assessors records all available for free online. I also patrol the roads and take pictures of plates so don't think you're going to park a mile away and not get scrutinized. We all know who belongs out here and who drives what.
There is NO EXCUSE to knowingly trespass on private property. Find the owner and ASK THEM if it's okay. I would much rather have the option to say yes or no to their request than find my favorite patches ravaged and torn up by people who don't even know not to disturb the mycelium and then having to pick up their trash to add insult to injury.
Also, Shroom God, I have no beef with you personally and you may be a great guy and a good poster in the forums and all, but I think that admitting to a crime on a public forum is going to make it more difficult for you to plead your way out if you ever do get caught and prosecuted. So, maybe rethink your harvesting strategies? People having their own land to hunt on means less pressure on the public lands, have you ever considered that?
Really ?? this a 4 year old post,, i know, have you heard any cool knock knock jokes lately?
The post may be old, but the topic is not. Not after the last couple seasons I've had out here dealing with trespassers.
I have this problem every spring and fall. Mushroom poachers in the spring, deer poachers in the fall. You'd think people would get it by now that I don't appreciate unwanted 'visitors'.
I clearly said I was resurrecting it due to recent events.
Ida know why you're on my property, but get the hell off before I call the Sheriff.
I'm with ya goat.