Will they Grow?

Discussion in 'Ohio' started by mattyp17, Apr 18, 2013.

  1. mattyp17

    mattyp17 Morel Enthusiast

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    Hey guys so I know that we've all at some point come across a real tiny real fresh shroom and we've had that internal conflict of whether we should pick it or leave it to grow.
    Most of the time when I leave them I come back and the shroom hasn't seemed to have grown at all but sometimes I'll come back and think that they thickened up.
    I was wondering what some of y'all do with the baby shrooms and if you have any experiences with the getting bigger?

    Happy Shroomin!
    Matty
     
  2. inthewoods

    inthewoods Morel Enthusiast

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    yes they will get bigger but a fine line between bigger and dried out. i always leave small blacks and greys and come back a few days later and they are bigger
     

  3. oldshroomer

    oldshroomer Morel Connoisseur

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    hey matty, that is a toss up! Because shrooms come in all sizes you don't know nor can you tell if it's done growing!! The only way is to leave it for a day or two and see what happens! A lot of the time that's just all bigger they're going to get, but doesn't hurt to leave them either, unless they're drying out, of course.
     
  4. bryan

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    Good points all of you!. I have had them at my house before and left them for over a week to watch them get bigger, and they did. If the shroom looks "tight" not expanded much i will leave them to expand.
     
  5. hugh

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    Tiny black and yellow morels (Morchella augusticeps and Morchella esculenta) will definitely grow unless it's very dry and they just don't have enough moisture. Whenever I find tiny ones I cover them with leaves and mark the spot with a stick. They will grow for up to 2 weeks if conditions are right. If it's a "tulip morel" (Morchella deliciosa), however, they are always pretty small and generally don't get much bigger than a couple of inches or so. Letting the blacks and yellows grow is important not just for eating but also so they can get mature enough to spore and reproduce.
     
  6. morelmaster_01

    morelmaster_01 Morel Enthusiast

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    the large yellow as my profile pic started out as
    a small tight gray (with small holes not expanded
    too large holes) my brother and i where always tould
    that they"pop" and dont grow. so we tested it and it
    grew and grew as every day went by and would have kept
    growing but it fell over.. with that said every one has there
    opinon.
     
  7. hugh

    hugh Morel Connoisseur

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    there are many good sites that have morel and other mushroom growth studies. see Chris Matherly's annual growth studies and various youtube clips:

    http://www.morelmushroomhunting.com/newsletter_january_2007.htm
    http://www.morelmushroomhunting.com/morel_growth_study_2013.htm
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFfKpnGKwlY

    in my opinion the best reason to let a morel grow is to allow it to mature, spore and reproduce, making more mushrooms for future years
    in my opinion the b
     
  8. shrooner

    shrooner Morel Enthusiast

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  9. shrooner

    shrooner Morel Enthusiast

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  10. harleydve21

    harleydve21 Morel Enthusiast

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    Just ask me I've been finding them for almost 2weeks now
     
  11. harleydve21

    harleydve21 Morel Enthusiast

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    Morels do not grow once they're up & formed that's as big as it gets there not plants pick everything you see or it will just turn brown trust me
     
  12. morelseeker

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    I've tried to see if they get bigger and usually what happens is they either dry up, get moldy and rot or another bigger one comes up beside the one that has dried or rotted, making me think that when they fruit they are as big as they get. I've pinched them off and went back a few days later to find a bigger one came off the same stump from the one I pinched the other morel from. But as to the fact of them growing and producing spores as soon as they fruit the spores they have are released; in my opinion. But everyone thinks differently and I'm not trying to argue, just speaking from experience.
     
  13. imfubar

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    @Harley, sorry bro you are so wrong. Every morel starts out the same size. Some grow slower, some faster, some shorter, some longer but they all keep growing till they die. I have tended morels for up to 33 days (that's from the day found which it was prolly 2-6 days old at the time). It all matters when you find them the first time. Early season morels have the best chance at long growth cycles due to having cooler temps and usually more rain than in mid to late season. Late season is almost always rapid growth and death. Season length is determined by average temp + rainfall. Lower temps more rain = 6 weeks or more. Higher average temps means the lack of cold air for thunderstorms which means Higher temp + less rain= 2-4 weeks depending on how warm and how little rain. You remember last year? 2 week season on average.
     
  14. imfubar

    imfubar Morel Enthusiast

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    To be sure. Are you finding tulip morels? They grow very little. Average height 2 inches give or take a little. But still grow a week to 10 days to get there.
     
  15. ohiobuck23

    ohiobuck23 Morel Enthusiast

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    Let the tiny ones be, many people are over harvesting the tiny ones which will damage the overall life span of the existence of morels in that part of the woods. Let tiny morels die off so they can give back to the ground, release their spores so that bigger ones can produce and let the legacy of the morels in those set of woods continue on for decades to come. Be patient, the big ones will pop. After seeing over half of the pictures posted on here it drives me crazy that most people are picking pointless tiny ones. They don't realize they are hurting their future crops.
     
  16. hugh

    hugh Morel Connoisseur

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    ohiobuck23: I agree 100%. I think there should be a size minimum for morel picking, like fish. All the photos of little ones I've posted were morels I covered and left to grow
     
  17. morelseeker

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    If they grow or not is totally irrelevant. They been here for hundreds of years before we were born and will be here hundreds of years after we are gone. The indians collected them in woven baskets. You might use a mesh bag or plastic bag it's up to you it won't change a thing. I hunt them in three different woods. First day first woods; pinch off morel hide stump with leaves. Second day second woods,same. Third day third woods, same. Fourth day back to the same spots in first woods there they are again sometimes right off one of the stumps I left earlier under leaves I hid them with. The earlier ones are smaller and the later ones are bigger. Just go out and have fun finding them, like you are on a treasure hunt and don't worry about the small stuff. Having fun is the main thing. No matter how you do it.
     
  18. harleydve21

    harleydve21 Morel Enthusiast

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    I've tried to let them grow many times all they do is turn brown I've found millions of morels never seen one grow yet so you'll never convince me because I know they don't grow I've already ate em 4 times this year
     
  19. bigcatriverrunner

    bigcatriverrunner Morel Enthusiast

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    They will grow.
    We found 20 tiny grays in a buddies front yard and we put glass jars over them yesterday morning. They doubled in size while the sun was out on the same day, overnight they didnt change much but in the sun today they grew a considerable amount again.
     
  20. imfubar

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    @Harley, so your theory is they just pop out of the ground just the way you find them huh? Well do this test for me, Take a morel and try to push it back into the ground and see if that works, or into a pot of very loose soil. Saying or thinking they don't grow is just crazy and it only proves you have never let them grow or you have only tried it with one shroom.